@athos
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@jon@vivaldi.net@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@vivaldi.net@social.vivaldi.net

make vivaldi so that if I have the address bar in the tab bar at the bottom of the screen. I can remove the top menu panel you can make it the icon with the panel is still there across the whole screen Floorp does not have a problem.

Also hard fork the project you don’t need to be dependent on Google. 

“Cough cough Manafest V3” 

@samueljohn @athos @vivaldi@mastodon.world

Thanks. You can read the details of that here:

vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-busin…

What’s Vivaldi’s business model? | Vivaldi Browser

Some browsers use your data in ad networks, push promoted content or use other invasive methods to fund their development. We don’t.

^{Christian Dysthe (Vivaldi Technologies)}

One thing that would make me switch immediately would be, if tab closing meant: delete everything, localstorage, cookies, indexdDB. Except for sites explicitly configured not to do this.

Duckduckgo has the fire button, but this decouples closing from deleting the data in a stupid way.

Firefox has delete on exit, which is OK on the desktop, but who closes an app, ever, actively?

Firefox is severely restricted on Apple stuff by their policies. Same for Vivaldi?

Oh,I respect that big time.

However, you're using the #Google #webbrowser engine which we all should not use any more to avoid a really really bad #monopoly. 😞

I'll stick with #LibreWolf for the moment.

#Vivaldi #Chrome #Chromium #Firefox

Honest question: Given that you use Chromium, doesn't this make you completely downstream-dependent of Google?

I feel like "not being an ad company" is nice, but depending that much on an ad company isn't much better either.

@rom

I'll be honest, the fact that Vivaldi is based on Chromium is a major point against it for me. I used to use Vivaldi a few years ago but went back to Firefox at some point. Now Firefox has some features that Chromium browsers don't have (and I'm not sure if they ever will), that I use every day and wouldn't want to miss.

I am however wary of Mozilla's increased entanglement with the ad industry. Most Firefox forks are not optimal.

Does Vivaldi still support Ublock Origin?

I use Firefox because I worry about browser engine monoculture, especially controlled by Google.

Every major endeavor requires resources. I'm not sure I approve with what Mozilla is doing but I understand they need to find a revenue source. What is the revenue source of Vivaldi, current and future?

This is a bit disingenuous, surely? Vivaldi make browser UIs - a browser is a lot more than its UI and Vivaldi relies on Google's Chromium.

If people are truly worried about where browsers are heading, investment in Servo is probably the most useful thing they can do right now. Even investment in WebKit would be a wiser choice to avoid a future monopoly, imho.

Use Vivaldi because you like it, not because you want to stick it to Microsoft/Apple/Google/Mozilla/etc.

@philip_cardella
Ideally we would have liked to build our own core, but having done that before, we knew that would not be viable.

So we were left with basically two choices and the safest bet was Chromium. We feel this is a strong codebase and having had to deal with compatibility issues in the past, we feel this was the best choice we could make.

We do a lot of work to make this Chromium based release as strong as possible. We have features not found in any other browser and we have more settings and flexibility than any other browser. We do listen as well.

Thanks for your support.